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Horace Silver – Horace Silver and the Jazz Messengers (Blue Note BLP 1518)

Blue Note BLP 1518 · 12-inch LP · 1956

BLP 1518

Horace Silver and the Jazz Messengers

Horace Silver

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Horace Silver and the Jazz Messengers

Late in 1954 Horace Silver had a quartet at Minton's Playhouse in Harlem. His trio records for Blue Note had people talking, and Alfred Lion wanted more of him. Ira Gitler, in the original notes, tells how Silver answered: he brought in Kenny Dorham and Art Blakey, and kept two of his Minton's men, Hank Mobley on tenor and Doug Watkins on bass. It was Silver's first time leading a horn band on record. The name on the door was the Jazz Messengers, which Blakey had used before for bigger groups; this band is the one that made it stick.

There were two dates, both at Rudy Van Gelder's in Hackensack. The first was November 13, 1954, and gave "Room 608," "Creepin' In," "Doodlin'" and "Stop Time." The second was February 6, 1955, a week after Dorham, Mobley, Silver and Blakey had made the sextet side of Kenny Dorham's Afro-Cuban (BLP 1535). This time Watkins, not Percy Heath, was on bass, and four more tunes came out of the day. Each date first filled a 10-inch LP, BLP 5058 and BLP 5062. Silver wrote seven of the eight; "Hankerin'" is Mobley's.

Side one opens with "Room 608," named for Silver's hotel room: a fast unison theme, then Dorham, Silver and Mobley, and a chorus for Blakey. Next is the slow one.

Creepin' In sets a wonderful minor mood – slow, slinky and funky.

Ira Gitler, original liner notes

"Stop Time" hangs on a short 16-bar theme, and every man takes a turn. Side two has "The Preacher," which Gitler hears as close kin to "I've Been Working on the Railroad." Wikipedia says Lion found it "too old-timey" and nearly left it off, until Silver and Blakey stood up for it. The record ends with "Doodlin'," a blues with the trumpet and tenor moving a whole tone apart in the theme.

The sleeve is Reid Miles's design around a Francis Wolff photograph.

Gitler thought Dorham had seldom played better. The 12-inch came out in October 1956, and Billboard's review noted that the lineup had changed since. Silver had gone off to lead his own quintet, and Blakey kept the Messengers name. Wikipedia points out that the quintet, two horns and three rhythm, was the shape Silver would keep for most of his career.

Sources: Ira Gitler, original liner notes, Blue Note BLP 1518 (1956) · Billboard, review, October 6, 1956, reprinted on The Jazz Tome · Wikipedia, "Horace Silver and the Jazz Messengers" · Jazz Discography Project, Blue Note 1500 series, BLP 1518

Released
October 1956
Tracks
8
Original notes
Ira Gitler

Who's on it

Credits

Producer
Alfred Lion
recording engineer
Rudy Van Gelder
design
Reid Miles
photography
Francis Wolff

The tracks

  1. 1Room 608November 13, 1954 · take 35:22
  2. 2Creepin' InNovember 13, 1954 · take 67:26
  3. 3Stop TimeNovember 13, 1954 · take 104:07
  4. 4To Whom It May ConcernFebruary 6, 1955 · take 55:11
  5. 5HippyFebruary 6, 1955 · take 35:25
  6. 6The PreacherFebruary 6, 1955 · take 134:18
  7. 7Hankerin'February 6, 1955 · take 95:19
  8. 8Doodlin'November 13, 1954 · take 86:45

In the running order of the album on Spotify.

Together elsewhere

The other albums at least two of these players are on together.

The whole band 5 albums

No.TitleLeaderYearWho
BLP 4325Horace Silver And The Jazz Messengers · not on the site yetHorace Silver And The Jazz Messengers1954Horace Silver, Kenny Dorham, Hank Mobley, Doug Watkins, Art Blakey
BLP 5058Horace Silver Quintet (Volume 3) · not on the site yetHorace Silver And The Jazz Messengers1955Horace Silver, Kenny Dorham, Hank Mobley, Doug Watkins, Art Blakey
BLP 5062Horace Silver Quintet (Volume 4) · not on the site yetHorace Silver And The Jazz Messengers1955Horace Silver, Kenny Dorham, Hank Mobley, Doug Watkins, Art Blakey
BLP 1507At the Cafe Bohemia Volume 1The Jazz Messengers1956Horace Silver, Kenny Dorham, Hank Mobley, Doug Watkins, Art Blakey
BLP 1508At the Cafe Bohemia Volume 2The Jazz Messengers1956Horace Silver, Kenny Dorham, Hank Mobley, Doug Watkins, Art Blakey

4 of them 5 albums

No.TitleLeaderYearWho
BLP 5065Afro-Cuban · not on the site yetKenny Dorham1955Horace Silver, Kenny Dorham, Hank Mobley, Art Blakey
BLP 5066Hank Mobley Quartet · not on the site yetHank Mobley Quartet1955Horace Silver, Hank Mobley, Doug Watkins, Art Blakey
BLP 1535Afro-CubanKenny Dorham1957Horace Silver, Kenny Dorham, Hank Mobley, Art Blakey
BLP 1544Hank Mobley and His All StarsHank Mobley1957Horace Silver, Hank Mobley, Doug Watkins, Art Blakey
BLP 1550Hank Mobley QuintetHank Mobley1957Horace Silver, Hank Mobley, Doug Watkins, Art Blakey

3 of them 2 albums

No.TitleLeaderYearWho
BLP 15396 Pieces of SilverHorace Silver1956Horace Silver, Hank Mobley, Doug Watkins
BLP 1537Quartet/Quintet/SextetLou Donaldson1957Horace Silver, Kenny Dorham, Art Blakey

2 of them 25 albums

No.TitleLeaderYearWho
BLP 5010New Sounds · not on the site yetMax Roach, James Moody, Art Blakey1952Kenny Dorham, Art Blakey
BLP 5018New Faces-New Sounds · not on the site yetHorace Silver1953Horace Silver, Art Blakey
BLP 5021New Faces-New Sounds · not on the site yetLou Donaldson1953Horace Silver, Art Blakey
BLP 5034Spotlight On Drums · not on the site yetHorace Silver Trio Vol. 2/Art Blakey-Sabu1954Horace Silver, Art Blakey
BLP 5037A Night At Birdland Vol. 1 · not on the site yetArt Blakey Quintet1954Horace Silver, Art Blakey
BLP 5038A Night At Birdland Vol. 2 · not on the site yetArt Blakey Quintet1954Horace Silver, Art Blakey
BLP 5039A Night At Birdland Vol. 3 · not on the site yetArt Blakey Quintet1954Horace Silver, Art Blakey
BLP 5040Miles Davis Vol. 3 · not on the site yetMiles Davis Quartet1954Horace Silver, Art Blakey
BLP 5055Lou Donaldson Sextet Vol. 2 · not on the site yetLou Donaldson Sextet1954Kenny Dorham, Art Blakey
BLP 5064Julius Watkins Sextet Vol. 2 · not on the site yetJulius Watkins Sextet1955Hank Mobley, Art Blakey
BLP 5070The Eminent Jay Jay Johnson Vol. 3 · not on the site yetJay Jay Johnson Quintet1955Horace Silver, Hank Mobley
BLP 1502Miles Davis Volume 2Miles Davis1956Horace Silver, Art Blakey
BLP 1506The Eminent Jay Jay Johnson Volume 2J.J. Johnson1956Horace Silver, Hank Mobley
BLP 1520Horace Silver Trio and Art Blakey-SabuHorace Silver1956Horace Silver, Art Blakey
BLP 1521A Night at Birdland Volume 1Art Blakey1956Horace Silver, Art Blakey
BLP 1522A Night at Birdland Volume 2Art Blakey1956Horace Silver, Art Blakey
BLP 1540Hank Mobley with Donald Byrd and Lee MorganHank Mobley1957Horace Silver, Hank Mobley
BLP 1541Lee Morgan Sextet (Vol. 2)Lee Morgan1957Horace Silver, Hank Mobley
BLP 1547A Date with Jimmy Smith Volume 1Jimmy Smith1957Hank Mobley, Art Blakey
BLP 1548A Date with Jimmy Smith Volume 2Jimmy Smith1957Hank Mobley, Art Blakey
BLP 1549Blowing in from ChicagoCliff Jordan & John Gilmore1957Horace Silver, Art Blakey
BLP 1558Sonny Rollins Volume 2Sonny Rollins1957Horace Silver, Art Blakey
BLP 1559A Blowing SessionJohnny Griffin1957Hank Mobley, Art Blakey
BLP 1562The Stylings of SilverHorace Silver1957Horace Silver, Hank Mobley
BLP 1556The Sounds of Jimmy SmithJimmy Smith1959Hank Mobley, Art Blakey
Sources

Jazz Discography Project (sessions, takes, personnel) · Wikipedia (release, running order, credits) · Discogs · MusicBrainz · AllMusic · Wikidata · Ira Gitler, original liner notes (read for our notes)

In the Modern Jazz 1500 series